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Siemens utilizes the Totally Integrated Automation (TIA) Portal on Windows to program and manage its PLC devices.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>The challenge:<\/strong>&nbsp;Cisco Catalyst switches will drop packets from Profinet devices that don&#8217;t conform to Ethernet standards, particularly regarding packet size. As a result, Siemens TIA cannot discover PLC devices with the default Cisco Catalyst switch port configurations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>The solution:<\/strong>\u00a0I configured a dummy voice VLAN on the switch port configuration to resolve this issue:<br><br><code>#sh run int g1\/0\/12<br>Building configuration...<br><br>Current configuration : 191 bytes<br>!<br>interface GigabitEthernet1\/0\/12<br> switchport access vlan 90<br> switchport mode access<br> switchport voice vlan 102<br> spanning-tree portfast edge<br> spanning-tree bpduguard enable<br>end<\/code><br><br>This configuration ensures that all packets passing through the port will have the correct Ethernet frame size, preventing protocol drops. Be sure to use a dummy voice vlan tag (not a production vlan or god forbid the actual voice vlan!). Setting the voice vlan on the port will adjust the ethernet frame size so that when profinet discovery and control packets pass the will be of the correct size. Below is a screenshot of a Wireshark capture showing the Profinet discovery process (search function in Siemens TIA Application):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"559\" src=\"https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/profinet-1024x559.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1516\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/profinet-1024x559.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/profinet-300x164.png 300w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/profinet-768x419.png 768w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/profinet-1536x838.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/profinet-100x55.png 100w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/profinet-700x382.png 700w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/profinet-1600x873.png 1600w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/profinet.png 1875w\" data-sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>And the end result is we can now discover and configure the PLC devices in the Siemens TIA Software:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"757\" src=\"https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/TIA-1024x757.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1517\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/TIA-1024x757.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/TIA-300x222.png 300w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/TIA-768x568.png 768w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/TIA-100x74.png 100w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/TIA-609x450.png 609w, https:\/\/www.insecurewi.re\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/TIA.png 1446w\" data-sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I hope this helps somone in the future!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This project was quite a challenge! 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